Is That A Willys Wagon?? 1956 Willys Project

[jbrewington]

Starting a post to share a project I just started. Never shared my projects online but was encouraged to do so by some friends due to extent of modifications planned. This project intended for trail riding here in the Ozarks/street legal.

Body just placed on Dodge 3/4ton chassis this week. Plan is to squeeze a 4bt compound turbo/NV5600 6spd manual/271D transfer case in it. Hope to have 4bt running here in a few weeks and will try to set all this in the frame; gonna make for a short drive shaft due to length of motor/trans/case and then short wheel base designed Willys body(looking at moving rear fender opening back about 12" to help with driveline-more work:rolleyes:).

Stay tuned for all the craziness..... hopefully ordering all the parts to put in a double triangulated enduro joint rear suspension/coil-overs today.

Here are some pics to start the post....

[jbrewington]

Here are some pics of Willys body moved over to ton chassis.

[bmorgil]

Looking very good jb! I like the 4BT idea. My son recently slipped one with compound turbos into a 4 door Square Body GMC. A lot of torque there. I cant wait to watch it grow!

[jbrewington]

Looking very good jb! I like the 4BT idea. My son recently slipped one with compound turbos into a 4 door Square Body GMC. A lot of torque there. I cant wait to watch it grow!

thank you my friend

[jbrewington]

Grunt work today.

Got a few hours in on the Willys project. Cut ton chassis body mounts/clean-up with grinder....

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[TJones]

Looks like a fun project there jb, can’t wait to see the finished product!!!!

[gmwillys]

Great plan of attack JB. The 4BT will be a great engine for your build! Your suspension upgrades will give you all the articulation that you could possibly need. As Bmorgil and TJ said, I'm looking forward to watching your project come together!

[jbrewington]

Any thoughts on moving the rear fender opening back about a foot? :rolleyes:

What you guys think?

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[gmwillys]

I don't think I've seen one done to that extent, but I give it a thumbs up. The wagon would ride nicer with the lengthened wheel base. Then you could put a wider rear seat in if you choose to.

[TJones]

Any thoughts on moving the rear fender opening back about a foot? :rolleyes:

What you guys think?

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Love it Jb!!!!
Looks like you have the right shop,tools and ability to do just about anything you want to do.
Keep us posted, looks Great!

[bmorgil]

Why not! Looks like a CJ with the wheels close to the front and the rear. Like gm said, it will get the most of the wheel base that's for sure. I think it is going to be one of a kind. Some fun work going on in that shop!

[jbrewington]

Why not! Looks like a CJ with the wheels close to the front and the rear. Like gm said, it will get the most of the wheel base that's for sure. I think it is going to be one of a kind. Some fun work going on in that shop!

Thank you sir. Yes, looking to extend wheelbase for in and out of bad spots; little more comfortable for uphill rides with rear axle at the back? Having fun with it... :D

[jbrewington]

Love it Jb!!!!
Looks like you have the right shop,tools and ability to do just about anything you want to do.
Keep us posted, looks Great!

Tools and shop; not sure on that "ability" thing? :D Still looking for that guy who said it would be 'easy'. :D

I am blessed. We have some really great times out there in the shop.

[jbrewington]

I don't think I've seen one done to that extent, but I give it a thumbs up. The wagon would ride nicer with the lengthened wheel base. Then you could put a wider rear seat in if you choose to.

Hey GM, we could always cut it up for scrap if we dont like it?? :D

Maybe it will work out. May need you to come over and educate me on some of this Seen you have a project going. You need to come get this chassis I have. Nothing wrong with it, just not my flavor. Running Super Hurricane motor:cool:

[gmwillys]

I'm certain it will work out just fine, and will be an awesome rig. I have one Heep that is as close to original as one gets, but then my wagon has been V8 converted. I like them both for their own attributes, but the wagon could stand to have a lot of improvements in drivability and handling. You'll be solving most of the quirks with your Dodge chassis, but I'm stubborn... in other words cheap. Actually, my chassis is really good all the way until through until you get to the rear frame horns. At that point they are rust pitted, and could stand a sectioning/boxing to bring back the strength, and mounting a frame mounted hitch.

I am interested in your chassis, but I have a few irons in the fire at the moment and am booked up through till February, that is unless there is a crappy weather weekend here that I can't work on my shop addition. I would surely be glad to ride out your way and see your operation, (drool at your workshop).

[jbrewington]

I'm certain it will work out just fine, and will be an awesome rig. I have one Heep that is as close to original as one gets, but then my wagon has been V8 converted. I like them both for their own attributes, but the wagon could stand to have a lot of improvements in drivability and handling. You'll be solving most of the quirks with your Dodge chassis, but I'm stubborn... in other words cheap. Actually, my chassis is really good all the way until through until you get to the rear frame horns. At that point they are rust pitted, and could stand a sectioning/boxing to bring back the strength, and mounting a frame mounted hitch.

I am interested in your chassis, but I have a few irons in the fire at the moment and am booked up through till February, that is unless there is a crappy weather weekend here that I can't work on my shop addition. I would surely be glad to ride out your way and see your operation, (drool at your workshop).

Well come on :-)

Most always out in the shop doing something. Latest on Willys is the rear fenders are missing :cool: Seem the Plas Cutter make short work on chopping this rig up :-) As of tonight, shop closed for next week or so. Out of town with work a few days then come back and load up for a weekend in the RV with family and friends. But, I will get back on it soon as I can. Hope to have this thing on the road middle next year if all possible(tall order i guess)

I would like to see someone pick up that original chassis. I'm sure it usable, steering tight. Motor cranks up(I wired it to start and run after pulling the body off frame).

Alabama is just down the road.:D

[jbrewington]

I guess there's no turning back now ...

Might be a few weeks or so before I get this straigtened out?!?!

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[gmwillys]

Looks like a good start with the layout and cutting. I think it will look pretty good when you are done.

[bmorgil]

Looking like a project on its way now. The first cut so to speak!

[jbrewington]

Time for an update....

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Is there a way to upload a short video with this website?

[jbrewington]

While I wait/try to find out how to upload a video of the little 4BT running, here are a couple photos on paint color I'm looking at. Thoughts?

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[bmorgil]

jb you cant do a video here. Some have set up a link to a video server like YouTube. Loving the pictures on this. Keep them coming! Especially the close up shots of what your doing. A lot of people will be interested in how you pull this off!

That's a nice trans/transfer case combo. I always find someone who seems to understand color to ask about color! In the end I think its what you like, to heck with the rest! That thing is going to look cool with any color scheme. Maybe stay away from pink.

[jbrewington]

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[gmwillys]

That is great! That may be me when I go to have Bmorgil fine tune a LX 6.0 for my wagon project.

[bmorgil]

Uh oh, jb's project is giving gm the bug to build something!

[gmwillys]

The bug is always there, just not the time....

[jbrewington]

The bug is always there, just not the time....

Just stop everything your doing; you'll have time :cool:

[jbrewington]

Getting things ready to assemble...

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[bmorgil]

Nice! Looking clean man. I like the clutch. Is that a ceramic disc?

[gmwillys]

Great clutch choice, and the reman transmission will work out good as well. Nice to start out with good parts.

It sounds easy to drop everything else and pick up on the wagon build again. I really only have one outside customer pending project that is better than halfway done, so that's progress. As soon as I get that out of the way, then it's time to lay block for the fabrication room of the garage-ma-hall. Then when that gets dried in, then parts for the wagon can get laid out to for installation.

[jbrewington]

Nice! Looking clean man. I like the clutch. Is that a ceramic disc?

yes. hope it holds up:rolleyes:

[jbrewington]

Great clutch choice, and the reman transmission will work out good as well. Nice to start out with good parts.

It sounds easy to drop everything else and pick up on the wagon build again. I really only have one outside customer pending project that is better than halfway done, so that's progress. As soon as I get that out of the way, then it's time to lay block for the fabrication room of the garage-ma-hall. Then when that gets dried in, then parts for the wagon can get laid out to for installation.

Since you are open to 'outside customers:-)', get the Garage-ma-hall done, and I will send this up for you to finish!! No problem....

Actually, I'm fortunate enough to be off all next week, so hope to get some time to work on this "whateveryouwanttocallit". Been ordering parts for weeks so now I have plenty different areas on this to offer attention.

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[LarrBeard]

Asking a bunch of guys about paint isn't a great idea; ask your wife, daughter of girlfriend...

But, TJones would like that color - it's close to "The Orange Crate", but a bit more subdued.

[jbrewington]

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Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. Lots to be thankful for on my behalf. Even got a little more time to work on my project this week.

Still waiting on turbos but was able to get the new clutch installed/trans mounted, put new seal kit in transfer case, then was able to get it all matched up. That was a job.

Next up, see if it will fit in the Willy?? :-):cool: If it will not, everything is for sale!! :cool:

[TJones]

Did I hear “For Sale” ???:):)

And yes Larry I Love the Color!!!

[LarrBeard]

That is one freeakin' gnarly power plant!

[bmorgil]

I am pretty sure you already know it's going to fit!

[gmwillys]

I'm sure he has it all figured out as far fitment. It's fun to watch this all come together.

I wish I could get ahold of a couple of the CAT 3126Es that we are in the process of demilitarizing. Some are low hours or have been overhauled. It's a damned shame, but factory support has dried up, so everything is being converted to the next generation. Just keep paying our taxes, and everything will be alright.

[bmorgil]

This is a great build for sure!

Man you hate to see good diesel motors go to waste. They cost a lot and run forever if you keep them going. Modern turbo power like this bad boy changes everything in the way they run.

[TJones]

Boy JB you are giving me the bug now:confused::cool::rolleyes:

Cant wait to see the finished product:)

[jbrewington]

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Decision whether to sale this whole project will not take long now....:cool:

Added a couple more pics to this original update; 'hanging in there'. That transfer case, up against driver side frame rail:cool: But I believe it is all going to be a 'Go' on installation. No longer for sale:-) Next up is mounting it to the chassis.

[TJones]

Here you go JB :):)
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[gmwillys]

I think we need to keep leaning on TJ until he gets himself a wagon or a truck to go along with the Orange Crate... I can only imagine what plant he would use in a longer wheelbase vehicle. His Crate is wicked as it is with the V6, but a little more room within the larger chassis would leave an endless array of possibilities. For some reason I have images of a build that would rival the Little Red Wagon or the HEMI under Glass Wheel standers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Little_Red_Wagon
https://www.hemiunderglass.com/

[bmorgil]

I think TJ wants jb's now! That big Cummins fits like a glove.

[TJones]

I think we need to keep leaning on TJ until he gets himself a wagon or a truck to go along with the Orange Crate... I can only imagine what plant he would use in a longer wheelbase vehicle. His Crate is wicked as it is with the V6, but a little more room within the larger chassis would leave an endless array of possibilities. For some reason I have images of a build that would rival the Little Red Wagon or the HEMI under Glass Wheel standers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Little_Red_Wagon
https://www.hemiunderglass.com/

You guys have me thinking now, What's Next :confused::confused::rolleyes:

[TJones]

Yes it does Bob, fit like a glove that is :):)

[TJones]

I have my eye on a 37 Ford Pickup Street Rod a guy has, it is the same guy I got the Orange Crush from. His wife called me the other day and asked if I was interested in it, I will post some pictures of it when she sends them over:):)
JB you are doing a Fine Job on yours that is a Fact!!!!

[gmwillys]

TJ, sorry I kept referring to Orange Crush as Crate... Blonde moment I suppose.

A '37 Ford pickup.....cool for sure! Flat head V8 with a blower would be even cooler! What plant does it have currently?
JB's 4BT Cummins will be a torque monster for sure! This build is going to be great! The extended wheel base will make the wagon ride like a dream.

[bmorgil]

Ahh the Orange Crate... a late 1960's era Schwinn bicycle.

[TJones]

Ahh the Orange Crate... a late 1960's era Schwinn bicycle.

With training wheels:):)

[gmwillys]

I had a ragged out, pass me down Sting Ray, but loved my uncles Yellow Peeler Krate.

https://www.schwinnbikes.com/blogs/schwinn-insider/the-history-of-the-schwinn-sting-ray-and-krates

[jbrewington]

Here you go JB :):)
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Someone has an expensive Vortec:cool:

[TJones]

After looking at your shop and how meticulous you are JB I am sure yours will be just as nice as that one, you need to remember too that this is on "Bring a Trailer" and there are people from all over the world "with stupid, crazy money" bidding on these things so it doesn't really mean they are worth what they sell for :):):)

Like I said yours will be just as Sweet with a whopper of a engine in the business end of it!!!
Keep us posted as you progress, can't wait to see her fire up:)

[jbrewington]

[QUOTE=TJones;18324]After looking at your shop and how meticulous you are JB I am sure yours will be just as nice as that one, you need to remember too that this is on "Bring a Trailer" and there are people from all over the world "with stupid, crazy money" bidding on these things so it doesn't really mean they are worth what they sell for

Like I said yours will be just as Sweet with a whopper of a engine in the business end of it!!!
Keep us posted as you progress, can't wait to see her fire up

Oh, I've had it running:) It's just that this website will not let me upload a video clip. But thats ok. And thank you for the kind words. Also, I like 'crazy money' too. We may have to get some of that:cool:

[jbrewington]

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I worked on motor mounts yesterday, but the guys at work say they may not hold unless I thicken the cardboard:cool:

[TJones]

They are probably right JB:):)

I posted a video on you tube of the Orange Crate after it was running JB and then copied the link and pasted the link on this site, it’s pretty simple!!

[bmorgil]

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I worked on motor mounts yesterday, but the guys at work say they may not hold unless I thicken the cardboard:cool:

Hahaha! Man that part looks familiar. The templates are key man. Nice work man!

[gmwillys]

CAD, (Cardboard Aided Design) are the bones of a good design. Four pieces Elmer's glued together is good for 100 HP, but only 25 Lbs. of torque. Might need six pieces glued together would fare better.

[jbrewington]

CAD, (Cardboard Aided Design) are the bones of a good design. Four pieces Elmer's glued together is good for 100 HP, but only 25 Lbs. of torque. Might need six pieces glued together would fare better.

Love it. have to steal that line:-)

[gmwillys]

No stealing needed, use away! I borrowed it from Marcus from Australia, and his Grand Willy's project. Now there is a master craftsman metal worker.

[jbrewington]

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Things are SLOW

Wife asked clean the yard. Wife asked put out Christmas decor. Working extra shifts due to short on staff.

Happy wife/Happy life :cool:

About to get back on it though. This pic is where I am waiting further fab work until rear differential set in place; place shock towers and new inside fenders. The grunt work begins....

If nothing comes up, have the whole day tomorrow to cut out some motor mounts

[gmwillys]

I wish my tailgate and rear floor was that clean!

Good luck on getting your shop day! Can't wait to see what you get done.

[bmorgil]

Slow and steady is the way to go!

[jbrewington]

Slow and steady is the way to go!

Good with the SLOW part:cool:

[jbrewington]

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Is the Plasma Cutter not the real deal when it comes to shop tools?

[51 CJ3]

Looks like good work. I know I would like to own a plasma cutter.

[bmorgil]

I agree, nothing like a plasma cutter. It sure beats Oxyacetylene.

[jbrewington]

Looks like good work. I know I would like to own a plasma cutter.

They are super super handy with fab work.

And thank you. Trying to get me some motor mounts cutout for this rig.

[LarrBeard]

That is so slick it's almost cheating!

Slow is smooth

Smooth is fast

Therefore - taking it slow is the fastest way to get it done right the first time ....

[gmwillys]

Great looking motor mounts! They'll hold up nicely!

I've been eyeballing some plasma cutters for the garage-ma-hall.... and a well used ironworker sheer/punch press. I just don't know if I want to spend the kind of cash on a really good one. The last shop I worked we invested in a ESAB, and it would leave a perfect edge, (if I would use a piece of angle iron as a guide). Very little dressing needed by the grinder, just to round off the edges for being hand friendly.

[jbrewington]

Great looking motor mounts! They'll hold up nicely!

I've been eyeballing some plasma cutters for the garage-ma-hall.... and a well used ironworker sheer/punch press. I just don't know if I want to spend the kind of cash on a really good one. The last shop I worked we invested in a ESAB, and it would leave a perfect edge, (if I would use a piece of angle iron as a guide). Very little dressing needed by the grinder, just to round off the edges for being hand friendly.

I would suggest a long-time brand if planning to keep it. I purchased the Hypertherm 65 from my local welding supply store and have been very pleased with performance; but this month they will no longer manufacture this unit per website. What does that mean, not sure. It says the will continue to supply consumables. Maybe it is just the model # being discontinued? Guess time will tell.

My miller tig and mig units haven't given me one issue(6 years now). I guess in some cases you get what you pay for. Buy once and be happy with it.

[jbrewington]

Finally got a little time to visit the Willys. With work, day at the vet, Wife graduating with her Masters, and then tornado's; been interesting around here.

But, hope to get back on this project. If I'm lucky, I may even try to relocate the rear differential later this week:cool:

Here are some pics where I was trying to lay down some wire. Self taught, so I do NOT claim to be a welder:D. And, I'm not a contortionist, but feel like it sometimes while trying to place a weld.

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[TJones]

JB your welding looks pretty darn good!!!
Self taught is the best teaching method anyways, nothing a little die grinder can’t fix up to make it look like a factory weld!

[bmorgil]

Looks great jb! Glad you dodged the tornado's.

Did the vet say you were healthy? Haha, I cant wait to see this thing finished.

[LarrBeard]

You don't need to apologize for any of those welds. Smooth surface and good penetration.

[jbrewington]

Looks great jb! Glad you dodged the tornado's.

Did the vet say you were healthy? Haha, I cant wait to see this thing finished.

Vet said ease up on dog treats and gave me a new round of heart worm pills.:D:D:D

[bmorgil]

Same thing they say to all the old dogs!

[jbrewington]

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Transnission crossmember was a bear to get set up>>>>but the 4BT has anew home

[LarrBeard]

Well, I would say that the 4BT should sit very nicely in its new home. The welds and the whole fabrication job look very good. I'm impressed by you guys who make metal do your bidding.

[gmwillys]

Can't ask for any better welds than that. Well done!

[TJones]

I’m with these guys JB!!!
Job well done, this is surely not your first rodeo or fab project:):)
You should of seen the disaster welding project I got into yesterday when the 160 lb Rottie decided she wanted to go outside to get a piece of the Amazon delivery guys fanny and knocked over our 10’ tall Christmas tree and destroyed the tree stand.
Needless to say the Bride had a meltdown and Dad had to take the stand out to the Garage-Ma-Hall and weld it up, which was like trying to glue a couple of pieces of cardboard together:(
Thank God for tree skirts around the bottom:)

[bmorgil]

Definitely has that "Lab Prototype" look! That should hold on to it jb.

[jbrewington]

Well, I would say that the 4BT should sit very nicely in its new home. The welds and the whole fabrication job look very good. I'm impressed by you guys who make metal do your bidding.

Thank you sir!!

[jbrewington]

[QUOTE=TJones;18479]I’m with these guys JB!!!
Job well done, this is surely not your first rodeo or fab project
You should of seen the disaster welding project I got into yesterday when the 160 lb Rottie decided she wanted to go outside to get a piece of the Amazon delivery guys fanny and knocked over our 10’ tall Christmas tree and destroyed the tree stand.
Needless to say the Bride had a meltdown and Dad had to take the stand out to the Garage-Ma-Hall and weld it up, which was like trying to glue a couple of pieces of cardboard together
Thank God for tree skirts around the bottom

Hope all is well with the mail man, christmas tree, and your sweety. Sounds like a busy moment:D

You're correct, not my first run at something, but don't claim to know it all for sure. As my first comment, I have been encouraged to share this build online by my friends and family because they seen how I like to do things. I have built my own prostreet '64 Fairlane and then built my dad a '51 Ford F1 hotrod. On the '51, I pulled the body off a 2000 model Explored and fabricated the 51 body to the chassis. Then, I may have :rolleyes: put a BBF, ZF 5spd, 4.10 gear setup in it :rolleyes: 3 1/2" exhaust with electric cutouts going to 5 1/2" 'megaphones' for fun. Interstate driving is a hoot; hitting the on-ramps and running it through the gears.

So yeah, I enjoy this stuff :D I'm blessed to have a place at home and a little time to enjoy this.

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[jbrewington]

Definitely has that "Lab Prototype" look! That should hold on to it jb.

Thank you my friend. Holding up nicely....:cool:

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[LarrBeard]

You are movin' right along. That power plant looks like it could twist the frame if you got on it too enthusiastically!

[LarrBeard]

"Dad had to take the stand out to the Garage-Ma-Hall and weld it up,"

"See Dear - that's why I need a shop and a welder...".

[jbrewington]

You are movin' right along. That power plant looks like it could twist the frame if you got on it too enthusiastically!

Willy's body on Dodge 2500 chassis. Little 4bt with 6spd manual. Hope it doesn't twist "anything"; my purpose to the build.

[jbrewington]

"Somebody" picked up a nice set of King Ranch seats for the Willy's. Nice brown pair of bucket seats for front; bench seat for rear.

Stay tuned for that....

But next phase of the build, Double Triangle Rear Suspension.

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[gmwillys]

Sweet '64 Fairlane pro street. I have a '65 crew cab 500 waiting patiently for me to get back under it to pull the tranny for a tooth less flex plate before the engine decides to stick again.. The '51 is a great build too! I bet it rides nice with the exploder chassis.

The rear suspension will be sweet and stout with the size of those hymes joints.

[bmorgil]

jb you are the definition of a "Hot Rodder"! Some fantastic projects there jb! Your dad must be truly happy with what you do. What a great time you have with the steel and fuel.

I am glad your friends talked you into posting. Your project might be what it takes to get someone else going. It is always positive to be able to see what someone was kind enough to share. You are teaching many more than you will know. The secret to evolution, teach the rest if you have an expertise.

[jbrewington]

Well ran into a little ‘part’ mishap on the 4 link. Big shout-out to Barnes 4WD customer service. Now we wait. ��

While I wait, did a little side view mirror work on the Willy’s. Put drivers seat in and got a feel for everything; held new steering column in place for a decision on mounts needed. Then worked on my XJ all afternoon. Trail ride coming up Jan 1st, so fixed the flat, changed the oil, replaced broke shock��, fixed power steering leak, few other things�� JEEP!!!��

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[bmorgil]

Attention to detail jb. I love that seat. Have fun in the dirt!

[jbrewington]

If you like American History...

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With Christmas, travel and time with family, the Willys is waiting on ME.

Out in the garage this evening and seen the old Pinkerton's sticker on the side glass again. Took a pic to share. With that, I proceeded to look this up on the internet. Heard of Carnegie(Andrew Carnegie Steel late 1800’s), seen any shows of Pinkerton family, seen Securitas around where you live?(security personnel at hospitals, malls, etc), Diebold Security?

Granted this is just a decal on an old Willys, but it ties back to the Pinkerton family in mid 1800’s to current time company Securitas Security(Sweden firm started in 1934). Only an observation while sitting around...

Thought I would share what I was seeing/found regards to the window decal.


https://www.grunge.com/316708/the-untold-truth-of-the-pinkerton-national-detective-agency/

[bmorgil]

Cool stuff jb!

[jbrewington]

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Ever change these out to soon����?

[bmorgil]

I think it might be time for a new one! It is however a nice 2"!

[LarrBeard]

Naw - we never change anything until it's just too late, we run most tools 'til death;

Here's what happened to Ira Jones when a grinder got away from him:

[gmwillys]

I thought I was the only one Scotch enough to run a wheel to the hub. I even save the nubs for special circumstances where I need the head room.

[jbrewington]

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Wore a grinding wheel down on this but that plas-cutter make short work getting the spring and shock perches out of the way. Plas/grind/sand, then will sandblast; some day...

Time to put a few welds down on the truss

[jbrewington]

Naw - we never change anything until it's just too late, we run most tools 'til death;

Here's what happened to Ira Jones when a grinder got away from him:

Ouch!! Not good.

[LarrBeard]

Very impressive truss work there.

[jbrewington]

Very impressive truss work there.

Thank you sir

[TJones]

Naw - we never change anything until it's just too late, we run most tools 'til death;

Here's what happened to Ira Jones when a grinder got away from him:

I remember him showing us that little mishap, the ones I’m deathly afraid of are the Harbor Freight 4.5” cut off wheels that decide to come apart at 10-12,000 RPM’s :(:(

[bmorgil]

Very good point TJ! The most damaging/dangerous event with a high speed grinder. The wheel disintegrating at speed. That can happen when you run them to the nub, or they are cheap. Protect yourself at all times!

[jbrewington]

Very good point TJ! The most damaging/dangerous event with a high speed grinder. The wheel disintegrating at speed. That can happen when you run them to the nub, or they are cheap. Protect yourself at all times!

Totally agree with you guys. Buy consumables designed for a said tool. I prefer the name brand consumables to same brand tools. I have seen some really bad accidents over the years. I’m a fan of Harbor Freight, but not the grinding wheels. Never used them, so can’t say to much, but the stories are out there about them coming apart.

Safety First!!!

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(Sneak peek of the unfabricated 4 link crossmember:rolleyes:)
(18 wheeler truck frame:cool:)

[bmorgil]

I love this project of yours jb!

[jbrewington]

I feel to fat to crawl around on the floor to do this, when I have access to a 2post��

Took needed measurements at the floor and going to 4link this in the air��

Squared up, level, and pinion angle set.

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Don't be to distracted with chains. My measure of safety so nothing gets away from me. :cool:

[TJones]

Looks pretty Good JB!!!
Sometimes you got to do what you have to do and use what you have to work with :):):)
The truck frame should do the job as far as being stout enough for your 4 link system!!!

[jbrewington]

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Something out of nothing/nothing out of something?

Here we go..... It’s a lot of detail to get this worked out, but, mathematically, it’s time to materialize this stuff. Good, bad or indifferent, i will share the results.

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[bmorgil]

A class act you are jb! I think you are documenting the value in this creation. Definitely not thrown together in the garage.

[LarrBeard]

That bracket/mount is more like a sculpture than a mere chunk of metal. The local art museum has a pile of scrap iron that is considered to be an objet d'art - I suggested that it would be a good place to hang an engine hoist or field dress a deer ... but I was dismissed as a Neanderthal who does not appreciate art.

[51 CJ3]

There is a lot of good steel in that “sculpture”. Enough to frame up an expansion for my shop!

Nice work on the Jeep. I wouldn’t know where or even how to start a project like that.

[LarrBeard]

Several years ago a drunk driver ran up in the Art Museum park and "damaged" the sculpture.

It was taken down and was under repair for some time (maybe a year?) and it took over a $100K, if I remember correctly, to fix the damage. I thought a can of Rustoleum primer and a can of orange srpay paint would have done the job a lot easier and quicker.

One of the local steel fabricators has a much nicer sculpture - it shows about 20 or so different joining techniques and I can appreciate that kind of artwork.

But, then, I am an unappreciative Neanderthal.....

[LarrBeard]

Here's what a real metal sculpture looks like ...

[bmorgil]

Now that looks cool.... from a totally "neanderthalic" point of view!

[jbrewington]

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Double Triangulated 4 link suspension; this is the 'elephant in the room'

Lower links mocked in....

[gmwillys]

Sweet set up!

[bmorgil]

Some super nice fabrication jb! You have "skills" to say the least.

[jbrewington]

I got in trouble again today for not sharing more detail.

Seems there is plenty of info on ‘how to use a 4 link calculator’; and remains complicated at minimum. Plenty of videos showing complete projects; very few ‘double’ triangulated. And hardly any info, if any at all, on a step-by-step process for getting this type of suspension in place. And to be honest, to much to address here in a post, but considering a separate post or voice-over/video if there is an interest in knowing.

Today’s menu:cool:, finished the mock-up. Time to tear it down, disassemble the enduro joints, and get to welding all the bungs to tubing.

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[TJones]

VERY NICE there JB !!!!

[jbrewington]

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Got a little prep work done before church this morning...

[bmorgil]

Those are some nice looking ends jb. Should be darn strong.

[gmwillys]

Those ends are strong, that's for sure. The articulation without binding will be tremendous!

[LarrBeard]

Did you use PVC for the mockup?

[jbrewington]

Did you use PVC for the mockup?

Yes, I did use PVC for mockup. It has its limitations in cycling the suspension(meaning not useful because pinion side of differential couterweights; it will all swarm apart on you). What is is useful for, is a visual where everthing connects, seeing driveline placement/clearance, and should you see the need for adjustment, save you a few hundred dollars in rebuying DOM tubing. Getting a visual on the setup is the benefit.

I didn't work on it today but hope to get several hours welding in tomorrow. Measurements for steering components/order a few parts.

[jbrewington]

Those ends are strong, that's for sure. The articulation without binding will be tremendous!

1 1/4" Enduro joints

1 1/4" for strength:cool:
Enduro joint for funtional grease inserts/cuts down on sqeaking suspension from crossing rivers/dust/mud/salt on roads; helps against wear.

[gmwillys]

11/4" Enduro joints aren't overkill, and the grease able aspect is good for the longevity/peacefulness of the suspension. The PCV pipe for the layout is a great plan! A cheap way to get everything placed and measurements made before cutting the first stick of pipe.

[LarrBeard]

We're learning.

Keep on teaching!

[jbrewington]

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I don't have a lathe, and welding around tubing is my weakness, so I improvised with a couple construction rollers.

Welding the bungs in can be done a many different ways. My process is to drill a 1/2” hole, half the length of the bung (in this case it was an inch in length, so 1/2” hole; 1/2” from end of the bung). After drilling holes, taper end of tubing on grinder for deeper weld penetration. The set-nut and bung was already screwed to within 7 threads of enduro joint from where i was doing the mock-up, so next i coat about 2” of threads with grease, then screw the bung down over the grease with about 3/4 the bung still on shaft(makes it easy to remove quickly after welding). Place joint/bung in tubing, tac each hole in side of tubing, weld bung in, button weld 1/2” holes. Remove joint immediately after welding so heat is not transfered to poly parts in the joint. Repeat same process on opposite end. Note, grease keeps bung from sticking to threaded shaft(bung can/will arc threads to bung while welding and reason for grease use) and once weld completed the grease gets burnt out so there isnt a grease mess once done.

This may not be the fastest way, but it makes a strong set-up.

Feel free to share your tips on doing this.

[jbrewington]

Time to move on to another phase of this project; Double Triangulated 4-Link is done. :cool:

Flexed it on the 2post lift; everything cleared really well. What the pics show, was not a maximum flex. This type of suspension is impressive in the amount of movement you have.

Time for shocks, bump stops, limit straps.

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[bmorgil]

Definitely some range of motion there jb. Very similar to a Monster Truck set up.

[LarrBeard]

Is the bung a slip fit into the tubing or does it take some persuading to get it into the tube?

[jbrewington]

Is the bung a slip fit into the tubing or does it take some persuading to get it into the tube?

Prior my drill and grinder work, easy fit. After rat-tail file/deburring, same. Couple, I used a rubber mallet and dropped right in with no issues.

[TJones]

Are you going to change the front axle JB so it has the same flexibility?
The rear is pretty impressive on what you did there!!!
I used to have a girlfriend back in my wilder days that was about that flexible, but now that I am Old and decrepit it probably would either kill me or wouldn't be nearly as fun :(:):(:)
Keep up the Good work Buddy!!!

[bmorgil]

TJ you bad boy... Better hope Sue doesn't see that post!

[TJones]

TJ you bad boy... Better hope Sue doesn't see that post!

What she doesn’t know or find out wont bother her one bit :):):)

[jbrewington]

Are you going to change the front axle JB so it has the same flexibility?
The rear is pretty impressive on what you did there!!!
I used to have a girlfriend back in my wilder days that was about that flexible, but now that I am Old and decrepit it probably would either kill me or wouldn't be nearly as fun :
Keep up the Good work Buddy!!!

Tell us more about the girlfriend(bmorgil) and I'll give you more on the plan for the Willys:D Just kidding:cool:

It has the worst(my opinion) Dana 60 made in front of it not. Vacuum accuated, super expensive conversion for lockout hubs, etc etc. So, yes, looking at a different set-up but still working on a decision regarding steering(Full Hydraulic vs. Hydraulic Assist).

Front Differential, just picked it up yet, Dana Super 60 "Snow Fighter"

[bmorgil]

The Dana super 60 Snow Fighter is the best front differential you will find. The vacuum disconnect front axle is easily modified with an axle shaft without the disconnect and a block off. However if you have a 60 model Snow fighter the decision is easy. Never count a model 60 out. It is one tough axle.

[jbrewington]

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All work and no play is NEVER good:D

Went up in the Ozark Mountains for the weekend.

Time to get back on the Willys I guess.

[LarrBeard]

That second picture is a heck of a snow/mud convoy!

[TJones]

Looks like you guys had a blast JB!!!

[bmorgil]

You have to love it when you see someone using the equipment like it was meant to be!

[gmwillys]

Looks like you guys had a great ride!

[jbrewington]

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Haven’t had much time this week to spend on the Willy’s but got back on it today. Located shock towers and spot welded in place. Cut and replaced section of floor. Got started on inner fender.

Fabricating takes time but it’s nice to design things the way you like.

Ordered a few more parts. My approach to all this is to keep supplies/parts available to work 3 different things at once. This way if I run into an issue and it stalls out for some reason, I will move over to something else to make good on my available time.

My somewhat tentative plan of attack/no certain order:
Shock towers/lower shock mount(current)
Inner fenders/floor(current)
Hydroboost/master cylinder(ordered)
Clutch/brake/gas pedal assembly
Steering column/base plate/2” drop mount

Maybe, some day, go through the Dana 60 and put it under this rig
Then we have steering gearbox/hydro assist cylinder to do
Maybe try to install those King Ranch seats:cool:

No shortage on things to get this through fabrication

Time and Money, that’s all it takes:cool:

[LarrBeard]

You may not think you spend much time on the wagon, but you seem to show us big achievements and progress every time you post. I'll give you an efficiency Gold Star to stick on the welder...

That's a very nice fender well...

[jbrewington]

You may not think you spend much time on the wagon, but you seem to show us big achievements and progress every time you post. I'll give you an efficiency Gold Star to stick on the welder...

That's a very nice fender well...

Thank you sir!!

My goal is to have the fabrication work done in April; Driving it in October. To me, this is a tall order, but OK if it should not happen. I will say, I have NEVER built a frame off/fabrication like this in one year. My best to date is just shy 2 years. Work is getting in my way:cool:

[TJones]

You may not think you spend much time on the wagon, but you seem to show us big achievements and progress every time you post. I'll give you an efficiency Gold Star to stick on the welder...

That's a very nice fender well...


I second that Larrbeard !!!!

[bmorgil]

Some sweet work jb!

[jbrewington]

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Well been working on locating steering column, brake/clutch/accelerator assembly, and hydrobooster/master cylinder. Even got the opportunity to cut out some fancy floor work from previous owner:cool:

Picked up a new gearbox and next will be an order for steering accessories for column to gearbox.

Welded in drivers side inner fender on the rear. Big big job here but we are getting there. One side down...

[TJones]

Very nice work JB!!!!

[bmorgil]

Quite a bit of top notch fab work JB! I am enjoying this build for sure.

[jbrewington]

Item by item, I am getting this ‘thing’ ready for disassemble/paint. Some day I hope.

Cut out a rusted corner over drivers door on the top, and part of the drip rail. Cut out part of the header; inside over windshield, rusted out as well. These were on my to-do list so thought I would ‘knock them out right quick’. Not the case. Crazy amount of time. Small showing, but had to be done.

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[jbrewington]

Transparency is the word.

I have posted progress progress progress. Only showing the best of each days work; and obvious it is meeting the goal. But in true transparency, the struggles are real. Very real. It is more work than meets the eye per sa. For anyone thinking its so hard to get things done, cant find parts, sending you the wrong parts, think it will only take little time and ends up being two days worth work, researching everything just to learn how, dont have a team of people to help you, breaking tools, running out of something in the middle of a job, redoing someone else’s art work? Well it happens to all of us. Don't let it get to ya.

For my hydroboost and master cylinder, I spent weeks trying to get this worked out. For some reason, 4 different parts stores ordering a “2003 Dodge 2500 hydroboost and master cylinder”, and for every single store, none, I mean NONE of the hydroboost would mate up to master cylinder. Hydroboost was same at every location; but none of the master cylinders would mate up(wrong stud orientation, stubs to wide apart, bore larger than hydroboost, etc etc)? And nobody has an answer with only an assumption something/a part could have changed in the middle of year.

I share all this to say this, if you are working on something and seems you can’t get anything done, again, it happens to everyone doing this. We do it for a ‘reason’. Stay focused on your reason, and dont let the petty stuff get to ya. It takes TIME and Patience. Simple As That.

Enjoy your work, and keep picking at it, it will come together. Do a big job, then work on a few small one's so you can see the progress. My project, an ELEPHANT!! And I’m doing the work myself, no helpers, just to show people it can be done, with a little extra effort.

So stay focused; and let's check something off your project list(two thumbs up!!)

JB

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[bmorgil]

Your post is proving that diligence is key. Keep swinging JB its looking great!

[gmwillys]

I agree whole heartedly with you JB. My wagon project has lingered around for going on four years since the big teardown, plus 29 years since it was last on the road legally. Once I get the garage-ma-hall annex wing completed, then I'll have more room to work. I have way too much stuff crammed into my current workspace. One step at a time, but most days it's a shuffle.

[jbrewington]

I agree whole heartedly with you JB. My wagon project has lingered around for going on four years since the big teardown, plus 29 years since it was last on the road legally. Once I get the garage-ma-hall annex wing completed, then I'll have more room to work. I have way too much stuff crammed into my current workspace. One step at a time, but most days it's a shuffle.

Understand. It a shuffle around my place as well!!

[jbrewington]

Just ordered rear bumper and steering linkage.

i'm broke!!

That's all.

[TJones]

It doesn’t take long JB before you need to just walk away from it and “refund” yourself or your project :):)
That’s why I’ve always said “I hope the Bride never sells mine for what I’ve told her I’ve got in it” after I’m gone :):)
It must be a Jeep thing!!!

[bmorgil]

How much do I have in it? Oh a few hundred dollars dear!

[gmwillys]

A $500 auction Heep can turn into a $5,000 investment in a hurry. But compare that to the cost of mental/physical therapy, you'll come out better with your project, and have something to show for it. The outside of a Jeep is good for the inside of a person.

[TJones]

How much do I have in it? Oh a few hundred dollars dear!

I'm glad I am not the only one that thinks that way :):):)

[LarrBeard]

There is a Facebook cartoon that shows “The Old Guy” washing dishes, running the sweeper, ironing clothes, and such as his wife looks on. Finally she asks; “What caliber is it?”

Around here the question might be;”OK, what year is it?”

"The outside of a Jeep is good for the inside of a person."

A great saying!!!

[gmwillys]

I borrowed the quote and modified it from Winston Churchill.

"the outside of a horse is good for the inside of a man"

[TJones]

I borrowed the quote and modified it from Winston Churchill.

"the outside of a horse is good for the inside of a man"

That’s a Classic Gm!!!!

[jbrewington]

A $500 auction Heep can turn into a $5,000 investment in a hurry. But compare that to the cost of mental/physical therapy, you'll come out better with your project, and have something to show for it. The outside of a Jeep is good for the inside of a person.

You are so correct!!

I use the word “balance”

My job can wind a person up occasionally and when in done, I’ll do things that need my attention then I’m off to the garage. I think everyone should have a ‘balance’. Mine is garage time.

A friend asked me the other day, “ are you keeping up with your receipts?” I said HELL NO!!! For two reasons, 1) i don’t need my wife knowing, and 2) it’s depressing (with the price of things theses days). :)

[jbrewington]

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Them guys on TV much faster than me:cool::D

[jbrewington]

So I’ve been showing small shots of progress...here is where I’m kinda at.

Day 1 with it still on trailer, then now. Started the build Oct. 15th, 2021. About two more months of work before i send it out for paint.

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[TJones]

You should be proud JB, it took me 3 years:):(

[bmorgil]

That is great progress jb! That thing looks so cool with the rear wheels all the way back. Looks like a monster ready to pounce.

[jbrewington]

Well, had a guy come by garage with a pocket full of money today. Said he found out about this rig and had to look me up. Seems he’s been wanting one of these to do the same thing to, he says.

He had nice trailer to haul it on, but sent him home without this junkr:D:D:D

Hard to believe the big money people will offer for stuff like this. He was well aware of what I already had in it, expense wise; had to appreciate him on that.

No pics lately, not much garage time. Back at it though, today, then gone for 4 days I guess. Wife said i need to make a house payment??

[LarrBeard]

You'll find that.

What people don't realize is that once you're done with it - there is more invested in it than money. They are surprised that their money can't buy the vision, sweat and soul you've put into the job.

Some folks act kind of offended when you turn them down. And, I would be kind of offended if someone just showed up with a trailer and expected me to sell it on the spot - no real conversation to make him think I was interested...

Harumph!

[TJones]

You are spot on about being a little offended…
There is one little detail you left out LarrBeard, you forgot to mention the the “blood loss” through the whole project it is Priceless!!:):)

[bmorgil]

You never know what someone will give you. I have watched some pretty outrageous prices during the Barrett-Jackson auctions. You never know, if someone offered up enough you might sell your blood!

[LarrBeard]

You never know, if someone offered up enough you might sell your blood!

Sell my blood - I've donated a bunch of it..

Sell my kids or Grandkids .. On the right day ???

Sell my Truck .. NO WAY!

[gmwillys]

That's how I feel about ever giving up my 2A. There is no amount of money that would tempt me to part with it. The wagon, maybe.

[jbrewington]

Well, shop’s closed for 4 days. Out making that house payment :cool:

But, I got a little time in yesterday afternoon. Focused on steering. Steering wheel to gear box.

Just to keep it transparent; the struggles are real in my garage as well. 1) notched the crossmember/restitched it 2) steering wheel adapter was a ‘flaw’; meaning of the 9 holes to mount steering wheel to steering wheel adapter, only one screw threaded all the way in to secure steering wheel. I will call and get another steering wheel adapter headed my way.

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[bmorgil]

The steering is one of those things that are super important to get right and difficult to do get done correctly. Looking good jb!

[TJones]

OMG Jb it gives me nightmares watching you do your steering linkage. It took me a long time to get mine figured out (maybe 3-4 beers and a couple Winstons sitting on a bucket for a couple nights straight) without putting 3-4 u joints or pillar blocks in it to get it from the end of the column to the box, I finally cut a notch out of the motor mount and welded a piece of pipe back in it to give it a little strength back and only ended up using 2 u joints.
I even had to find some block hugger headers for the Buick V6 so the steering wouldn't get in the way.
You did a Great Job on yours!!!

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[jbrewington]

OMG Jb it gives me nightmares watching you do your steering linkage. It took me a long time to get mine figured out (maybe 3-4 beers and a couple Winstons sitting on a bucket for a couple nights straight) without putting 3-4 u joints or pillar blocks in it to get it from the end of the column to the box, I finally cut a notch out of the motor mount and welded a piece of pipe back in it to give it a little strength back and only ended up using 2 u joints.
I even had to find some block hugger headers for the Buick V6 so the steering wouldn't get in the way.
You did a Great Job on yours!!!

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I know what you mean. I was like, believe I will put the seats in today. But had no steering wheel. No steering column. So here the debacle started. Steering column, well it appears I needed to make the Steering column happy with the clutch/brake pedal assembly, and then, I would know where to center drivers seat, right?:cool:

Then when I seen how much steering linkage cost, I considered a Go-Fund-Me account. GEEZZZ:D But I got it done. About 1400.00 from new Steering Gear Box to Horn Button. Add it up(shaking my head....):D

Horn Button 55.00
Steering Wheel 175.00
Steering Column 300.00
Steering Column Mounts 110.00
Steering uJoints/DD rod 465.00
Steering Gear Box 300.00

Stuff adds up. Should be just short of a million dollars by the time I get this thing rolling.

[LarrBeard]

"Stuff adds up. Should be just short of a million dollars by the time I get this thing rolling."

And a bargain at twice the price.

Nobody - and Nobody - will have anything like it!

[gmwillys]

That's why I work on everyone else's junk to finance my own projects.... But then I run low on time for my own Heeps.

[TJones]

It adds up real quick jb........................

[bmorgil]

jb I gotta say that's a pretty good cost for a complete steering hook up. I think you did well there.

[jbrewington]

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Merry Christmas to me in February

Rear bumper w/tire carrier, double jerry can and high-lift jack mounts:D:D:D

I still have passenger inner fender to burn in, then to bumpers and rock slides. Stay tuned for this crazy trip I’m on....

[bmorgil]

No question I am staying tuned!

[gmwillys]

Sweet presents! Santa couldn't haul it all at once!

[jbrewington]

jb I gotta say that's a pretty good cost for a complete steering hook up. I think you did well there.

Thank you sir. Some of these parts can be had at 2-4 times price I chose. Totally agree.

[jbrewington]

Wotk is getting in my way.

Solutions?

[bmorgil]

Retire into making custom Willys.

[gmwillys]

Sound advice, until I look at my investments tumble outside of the defense industry stocks, because of the instability in the Ukraine.

[jbrewington]

Sound advice, until I look at my investments tumble outside of the defense industry stocks, because of the instability in the Ukraine.

I understand completely. Almost 40k since first of the year. And not expecting anything exciting to happen either(shaking head back and forth). We are in fir treat before all this is over. Hope I can finish this project; craziest government ive ever seen.

[jbrewington]

This thing has been a bear this week. Working on passenger inner fender.

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[gmwillys]

Some days things fall into place, then others the simplest things fight you every step of the way. Keep plugging along!

[jbrewington]

Some days things fall into place, then others the simplest things fight you every step of the way. Keep plugging along!

Time to move past this idea of relocating rear fenders. Done!
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Get something else going. Did I mention borg warner compound turbo set inbound?

[gmwillys]

Compounds ought to motivate your wagon pretty well!

[TJones]

JB you are going all out on this build!!! WOW is all I can say Great Job!!!

[bmorgil]

Looks really good jb! Compounds are the way to go. No turbo lag.

[jbrewington]

Back on the Willys. Had to go make some pocket jingle

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[TJones]

I was just wondering what happened to you yesterday!!!
We haven’t heard a peep out of JB for awhile, bumper looks great!!!
Did you make it?

[gmwillys]

The bumper looks good on there. I was wondering how it was going to look with the proportions of the Dodge frame to the body. I like the way it turned out.

[LarrBeard]

That is a MOVE DAMMIT! bumper.

[bmorgil]

Truly a beast jb!

[jbrewington]

Rear bumper on. That was work!!

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[jbrewington]

Installed pics...tire carrier/high-lift jack/2 jerry cans

Smittybilt Atlas JK bumper; flared to ‘56 Willy’s :cool:

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[LarrBeard]

The front bumper is a "MOVE DAMMIT" bumper and the back end is a "I DARE YOU TO HIT ME" rig. That is one fantastic job. I marvel at the metal bending and fitting.

[bmorgil]

jb I hope you have some bad a## brakes on that rig. It is a lot of power with a lot of weight. A sledgehammer to say the least! You are going to need some solid anchors that's for sure.

[jbrewington]

jb I hope you have some bad a## brakes on that rig. It is a lot of power with a lot of weight. A sledgehammer to say the least! You are going to need some solid anchors that's for sure.

Well I haven't been through the brakes yet but will. Dodge 2500; disk in front and drum brakes for the back. I will go completely through the brakes before getting it out. New lines to rotors. Just put in a new hydraulic booster and new master cylinder(1.5" plunger).

I worked on a friends car today(65 fastback black on black; I had backhalfed it, narrowed rearend, and today put the new axles in and place wilwood calipers on. So it is ready to go out for paint and not be taking anymore time for now). Now, I have to run the valves on dad's old truck and put valve covers back on. And sold my white jeep. Long story short, cleaning up some small list items so I can put my focus back on the Willys.

I am down to a list. Full page, but once completed, off to paint. Goal is end of April. Time will tell. :-)

[gmwillys]

Job well done on the rear bumper! Glad your list has dwindled down to one page. That is quite the feat in itself.

[jbrewington]

Mirrors mounted today

Took all the internals out of doors, labeled, filed away for another day

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[jbrewington]

Looked out and my shop supervisors were no longer on their bed...

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[TJones]

She is Real close to ship it out JB, to get her new dress put on her!!!

[gmwillys]

Looks like the supervisors are ready for a patrol of the kingdom. The mirrors look great! Glad you opted not to follow the trend of these kids with the late model Ram Bullwinkle mirrors.

[bmorgil]

The dogs are ready to run!

[LarrBeard]

"Em's a cuppala nice lookin' dawgs Jay Bee".

All dogs love trucks....

[jbrewington]

Welded holes up in dash; so I could cut more holes, in dash:cool:

2” gauges next; temp, oil press, boost, egt

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[TJones]

Nice Job JB!!!

[gmwillys]

Looking great!

[jbrewington]

Looking for some rock slides and brackets for a 1956 Willys Wagon:cool:

[gmwillys]

With your talent, you could definitely whip up a pair of sliders and brackets in no time.

[jbrewington]

With your talent, you could definitely whip up a pair of sliders and brackets in no time.

Just trying to get someone worked up!! :D

I make ‘everything’:D

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[gmwillys]

Your custom brackets are a lot more sturdy than the ones that came with the sliders. I like the way they look on there.

[bmorgil]

JB..... just toying with us?

[jbrewington]

JB..... just toying with us?

Yes sir, maybe :-)

[jbrewington]

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one long exhaust system...

[TJones]

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one long exhaust system...

I would say so :cool::cool:

[gmwillys]

There sits a fortune in tubing.

[jbrewington]

There sits a fortune in tubing.

Yes!! Just YES!!

[jbrewington]

Today is garage day if all goes well.

You guys know the time required to get this done. Haven’t put it out to pasture, yet.

[jbrewington]

Got my friend out to do some final detail/straightening on the sheet metal panel replacements. If you never witnessed an old school body shop guy do metal work on panels, your missing out on an art in itself. Vice grips and ratchet strap. Pry bar. Assortment of well used body panel hammers. Hand torch a spot of metal to the point it is red hot/almost red hot and swelled out like a big ol knot, then hammer it in, throw a water saturated rag on it then hammer some more. And presto; on to the next spot... impressive.

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[TJones]

You are spot on JB it is a art and there are not to many artist left that do it the ole fashion way!!

[bmorgil]

These guys have an inherit ability to "see" a flat surface. Amazing how it looks after paint.

[jbrewington]

More craziness up in here today...

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[bmorgil]

Now that is unique!

[jbrewington]

Still doing that thing called fabricating. Getting more and more done.

Interior braces and underneath rear quarter panel bracing. Been working; just not posting. I will be posting some pics soon you guys might find a little more interesting ��

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[LarrBeard]

I hope you are not planning on needing that! (Like a parachute or pistol - if you do need it, you want it to be there, just in case.)

[LarrBeard]

We're good at watching someone else work.

[bmorgil]

jb, if you have an idea of how many hours have/are going into this, it would be educational to know. I think many are unaware of the amount of time that goes into the planning and engineering as well as fabrication and assembly fitting etc. I would love to hear the number of hours it takes for a shop like yours (well equipped, technically sound and capable) to do such a project.

Be sure to download your thread every now and then. It will be a cool addition to the build. We have lost a thread or two from time to time!

[jbrewington]

Can you educate me further on the how to download this thread. Not familiar.

And I will have to get back with you on hours involved.

[bmorgil]

Under "Thread Tools" choose "Show a Printable Version". From there you can use your browser to save it as a PDF file. Unfortunately the pictures wont be there so you have to keep track of the photos yourself.

[jbrewington]

Under "Thread Tools" choose "Show a Printable Version". From there you can use your browser to save it as a PDF file. Unfortunately the pictures wont be there so you have to keep track of the photos yourself.

Thank you sir. I will take a look at this.

[jbrewington]

More and more of this glamorous body work/quarter panels. Hopefully after this evening we will be ready for bead blasting and I have plans to meet with painter this week.

Then, maybe, between firing the smoker up to cook up some Amarillo Eggs, I will get some more time in setting up the compound turbos:rolleyes:


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[bmorgil]

If you can set those turbos up in the 2 hours it takes to smoke Amarillo Eggs, you are as good as it gets! I understand its best to eat those with a glass of milk.

[gmwillys]

Armadillo eggs are some of my favorites off the smoker. It depends on the jalapeños that you use, if you need the milk or not. It would be a fair bet that JB's might require the whole carton.

[LarrBeard]

And a quart of ice cream to cool everything off. "Come on ice cream".

Getting the body panels straight isn't glamorous work, but those are the first things people notice and they set the stage for the rest of the work of art.

[jbrewington]

And a quart of ice cream to cool everything off. "Come on ice cream".

Getting the body panels straight isn't glamorous work, but those are the first things people notice and they set the stage for the rest of the work of art.

“Come on ice cream"

[jbrewington]

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Turbos in place and first run of tubing considered a start?:cool::cool::cool:

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[bmorgil]

That fits in there just right! What a contrast, a compound turbo tucked up against a '56 firewall.

[LarrBeard]

OK - I'll ask the question... Just what are compound turbos"

Turbo 1 feeding turbo 2?

[gmwillys]

That is correct Chief. The output of a smaller turbo #1 spools a larger turbo #2. The benefit is better low end torque, mid range, and high end performance. There is a reduction in turbo lag, with the smaller turbo pushing air to the larger unit.