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Mike from Kaiser just emailed me back and this is what he sent me
Hey Tim, here are the tie rods assemblies that are available:
https://www.kaiserwillys.com/driver-...-cj-2a-3a-3b-5
https://www.kaiserwillys.com/passeng...-cj-2a-3a-3b-5
and this is how it’s setup:
https://www.kaiserwillys.com/diagram...teering-system
Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Mike is good, but his thinking is for a stock set up. I saw the one(s) from epay for $200. I have not had a chance to look at the Scout parts sources. Their prices are generally descent, unless you are looking for a quarter panel.... Then hold on to your wallet.
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What about this GM?
I could fabricate something like this drag link to go in the top bearing on the passenger side.Attachment 3493
I would feel much safer with a factory built knuckle.
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Scout parts.com has your knuckle for $250 and change. I.H. parts.com sells a conversion hi steer kit to move everything to the top of the knuckle for added clearance. At a quick glance, I saw a single hole, but am sure they would have a dual hole. Take a look at their design, and you could pattern yours to match if you chose to Fab your own.
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That 2 hole must be obsolete from what I see.
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Scoutparts did have one, 273.23 with shipping. As far as obsolete, it all depends on the geometry of your steering configuration. With the Saginaw mounted on the frame horn,. It works well, with descent road manners. Never had a case of the dreaded death wobble with that configuration. Now, I didn't rack up huge miles on it back then.
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I found a pair (left and right side for $200) on EBay for $200 and I made a offer of $75 let’s see if he takes it👍👍👍
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It is Christmas time and I don’t want to wait until the eve to Christmas shop for the Bride so with a day off I might go to Summit racing and buy her a grab bar or something nice for the project :)
How’s that sound? She’ll Love it Attachment 3496
That’s last year in Puerto Rico. :cool:
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All I can say is that if she does appreciate the oh sh*t handle, she's a definite keeper.
I'll have to look to see if we have any pictures together. The long suffering misses runs from cameras.
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Attachment 3497I think what I’m going to do is hook up the tie rod under the knuckle and run the drag link from the steering box to the top of the knuckle on the passenger side and use chrome-moly heim joints with stainless 5/8 bolts.
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I just found a Dana axle in California on Willy’s for Sale that has the knuckle I need for $100 for the whole axle, wonder if he’ll sell just the knuckle?
It’s 5:30 in the morning in CALI maybe I’ll wait to call him:)
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If the axle from California doesn't pan out, then I like your idea for stacking the hiem joints on the single hole knuckle. As long as the hardware stays tight, it should work well.
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Got the frame and bumpers back from the powder coating shop today and he did a great job onit.Attachment 3519Attachment 3520Attachment 3521Attachment 3522Attachment 3523
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Everything is going back together with 316 SS bolts,nuts and washers.
PS don’t forget to use Neverseeze on everything!!!!!!
He told me today he could Powdercoat over bondo if it’s less than a inch thick, he said get a fender, hood or tailgate ready and he’d try it for free to see how it came out.
My next move is to get a fender ready and let him do his magic!:p
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Not to change the topic Mr. gm but knowing you work for the defense system I have a meeting tomorrow to start a job at the Revenna Arsenal in January, if you’ve never heard of it Google it, it has a long history of government defense operations.
We are doing some contaminated waste removal “demo of a building that was built in the early 50’s and tore down in the late 80’s” and buried on site.
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The job will be fun. Government red tape every time you turn around. A piece of advice, buy cheap boots and gloves. You do not know what you may be digging up. The military is well known for dumping anything and everything in open pits. I would also consider cleaning your equipment before bringing it home, or to another job. I would even go as far as taking in a load of pit run to pile off the side, and load it when you are through, and then dump it to scower the dump truck or end dump.
The frame did turn out really well. Powder coating the body parts would be great! More often than not, the powder coated color is much more consistent than paint. Then down the road if you need something fixed, there should be no difference in the shade of coat. Maybe years of being outside, the coat would not match, but I doubt that will be the case with your rig.
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You are right about the Red Tape, I’ve never seen so much paper work. Once you get in the guys and girls we’re working with are Very helpful and nice to work with. The Arsenal has 3 full time employees that work on site that are employed by the Federal EPA so you can only imagine the extra paperwork that comes along with that!!!!
I’ll send some pictures of the fender when it’s finished,you all have a Very Blessed Christmas and a Happy New Year!!
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Just waiting for the U-bolts and spring plates to get back from getting chromed.
Anybody looking for a new plastic tank,mounting strap,cap, 5 hole sending unit and rubber body grommet I think I'm going back to my original plan of putting a fuel cell in the back and covering the back portion with a vinyl cover with snaps or buttons. It fits a 46-64 CJ-2A,3A, and 3B for $175.00 plus shipping
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The steering box mount looks good! The fuel cell plan sounds like a winner. Too bad the fuel tank isn't for a wagon. I have a couple extra original 2A tanks that are cleaned and ready to go. I cleaned my wagon tank, but the way it mounts to the rear body invokes dirt to build up on top of the tank, and rots out the rear body panel, bellow the tail gate. Amazing to me, the tank was in good shape.
Your frame is looking really good.
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I am pleasantly surprised at how he got the whole frame hot enough get the coat to stick. Looks very good.
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LarrBeard they have a oven in their shop that is 40’ x 40’ and he says it heats up to 800 degrees F, they told me they powder coat a lot of stuff for the military and they need it to get that hot to meet the spec’s they want.
Thanks Guys I’m taking my time and thinking ahead, well sometimes anyways “ like the fuel tank verses the fuel cell “
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Time taken now, saves time redoing later. I spent the last week building a platform for the step daughter's washer and dryer. The stand started with a pile of some leftover 2X4 studs and a 4x4 post. We had taken measurements of what was needed, but hadn't thought too much about the actual design. The frame was built, and spent an evening after work studying different thoughts. The final product was an old mission style door. An evening was used up cutting and piecing the boards together creating a pattern, then the next two sanding and staining. Then the final night to clear coat. It turned out well enough, my long suffering Misses wants one for our kitchen remodel... Tomorrow sounds like a good day to start on the second piece.
P.S. living in Montana, now I'm jealous again. I keep threatening to move to Alaska. The misses says hell no, it's too cold. I like the cold. Montana might be a good compromise.
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Not really gm, I would wake up sometimes it would be 70 and by night time it would be 15 with 2’ of snow on the ground, the altitude where we hunted would really mess with the weather.
NE Ohio is fine for now but Nana wants to get a house in Murrells Inlet S.C. So we can spend more time with our 2 granddaughters down there, but we have 1 up here and another coming in February up here as well.
So Papa needs to keep working for a little while, so Nana can commute back and forth for now:p
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I spent 9 years in mid state Minnesota. Usually once a year you would have a period of two weeks that it would drop to -40 actual air temp, with a -50 wind chill. The last 5 years were spent working for a local county, working on heavy equipment. Nothing ever breaks when it's nice outside. At those temps, moldboards would crack, and air cleaners would pack with ice. The hydraulic shocks on the pick up would be stiff and crunch over every bump.
The altitude would be the biggest hurdle. I'm not near as young as I used to be, and cigars and Marlboros sure wouldn't help matters. In all actuality, it isn't so much about the geographic location or climate, but more the lack of people close by. I tend to like my neighbors a little more spread out.
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Mike at Kaiser-Willys told me he would refund me for the plastic tank,straps,felt strips,sending unit,chrome cap and the body rubber if I sent it all back!!!
Now that's customers service at it's finest!!!
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Good deal. Mike is good to deal with. I haven't had to send anything back as of yet, but it's good to know that they take good care of us. Pelagro has said that he has good luck as well, except for the fuel tank well, but that probably came from a sub contractor.
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They must sub a lot out, take a look at their place on google maps in Aiken SC it is pretty small for as much as they sell on Kaiser Willy’s.
I started cutting out the fuel filler indent on the drivers side so I could fill it in and the tool box beings i won’t be able to use it once everything is together. The boys in the Philippens must practice weld on the tool box due to the inside you can’t see, after 5 cut off wheels she broke free WOW they must not of wanted it to come loose!!!!
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Pelagro can add that the original Willy's workers must have been paid by the spot welds. There is no consistent manner that the spot welds were laid out. I know I burned out the guide pin on the spot weld cutter, but boy did it make life easier.
Just as a random thought, I wonder how hard it would be to make/modify a weather proof vault or box to put under the seat? Have the door drop down forward to the floor board. Just a thought.
Your fill in job looks really good!
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I’m thinking of building a box to put between the seats and mounting it on top of the angles that the seats sit on, I have about 12-18”s between them and put a master kill switch in that box and have the box lockable and maybe mount the battery box under the passenger seat.
I guess I’m not really sure what I’m going to do yet so maybe it’s time to sit on a bucket again and do some thinking over a beer and a Winston:rolleyes:
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I sometimes have random thoughts like that. I know when the long suffering Misses rides with, she has to hold on to her purse. Since our 2A has a tool box and lid, I was trying to engineer a weatherproof vault to put valuables within to be secure. It hasn't gone beyond the drawing board, since the 2A isn't in line for any work to be done, except maintenance.
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The Bride said it was her day and not the Jeeps so she had me build a set of steps so our 140 lb rottie could get up in the bed with us:D:)
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I know the situation. I've spent the last three days building a riser for the washer and dryer. This is a snowball effect because I built one for the step daughter for Christmas, so the long suffering made the statement that it would be nice to have since we had planned to put down new flooring while I'm off. So today the riser was finished, so tomorrow starts the floor. Hopefully by the end of the week all the household projects will be completed, so I can get back to the heep..... Wishful thinking because just as soon as I uncover the welder, something breaks here or at the monster in law's.
Your rottie is a good looking dog. We have three and a stray. One was a flea market freebie. She is a hienz 57 as far as breed, and is the garage dog. The second one is a lab walker hound mix, and she is stupid. She will stand out in the rain, for no apparent reason. The third is my buddy. She is a pure bread German Shepherd. She is the protector of everything. Nothing goes without her knowing first. The last puppy is a pit bull mix, that isn't very bright. She was dumped off, and is still in search of her forever home.
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I understand perfectly, the Bride has completely ruined 4 very good dogs,our rot, a australian Shepard, a lab and a pit bull hienz mix so I understand your pain. We have the aussie and the pit bull mix at the shop and the lab and chubby at the the house and for the life of me I think if she had to make a choice I’d be GONE!!!
I love them all but if someone would ever break into the house or shop and she was there it would be a blood bath when I came back and Mom would say I’m not sure what happened. Attachment 3560Attachment 3561Attachment 3562Attachment 3563
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Digger the Aussie
Dozer the Pit Mix
Harley the lab
And Bella the Fat So Rottie
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Everyone is scared of the Shepard, but the one that is the most unpredictable is the oldest dog. She bares her teeth if anyone comes to the garage door. She is good if she knows you, but angry if she doesn't. This happened after she was spayed. Must be a hormone deficiency.
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The same with Bella the rot, she’ll be 4 in March and Harley is 9 she owns all the toys,the treats,the beds,the house and both owners. She rattles the windows if someone cuts through the yard or knocks on the door.
But like I said Mom has ruined them all by spoiling them, Bella is intimidating bc of her size but I don’t think any of them would bite anyone except Dozer at the shop, but maybe not if she was home alone and someone broke in.
The other 1 at the shop, (we had to put the Aussie to sleep last year)has full range of a 12,000 sf dog house. He’s only 45 lbs but has the bark of a 145 lb dog and is VERY racist the neighbors call him NED. The N^**eR Eating Dog. Someone tried to kick in the rear door one night last year and when they got in they left in a hurry leaving behind their tools and a big section of their pant leg and one tennis shoe that were both covered in blood so needless to say the shop is safe.
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I worked for a guy during high school, at his salvage yard. He had a rottie who was every bit of 200 lbs. He rode with on every tow call and reposition. Nobody would approach the truck, just because he was in there. He wouldn't bite a hot biscuit, but looked very intimidating. He stayed in the tow in lot with a nice heated dog house. Nobody bothered the cars in the lot. The only problem was that he didn't like Volkswagen nettle tires. It was learned that if one was towed in, it had to be put in the other lot. The crazy dog would bite through all four tires. We couldn't figure out if it was the narrow width of the tires, or the noise the car made with the air-cooled engine.
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Happy New Years guys and Girls!!!
This is us at 9-9:30 on amateur night for the last 8-10 yearsAttachment 3578
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Change the TV to individual tablets, then I would think it was our living room. Archie and Edith in for the night.