Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14

Thread: CJ 5 steering gear box ?

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Junior Member Skboyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Location
    Bellville, ohio
    Posts
    12

    CJ 5 steering gear box ?

    So my steering has a good bit of play, slop. We have tried adjusting with some improvement. The conclusion we came up with is the gears are worn and needs replaced or rebuilt. So my question is do I find a new one or is it worth rebuild and if rebuild is it a difficult job? Looked over the manual and watched a video. Seems doable, but curious if I go this route any advice to help me out and be aware of. Rest of steering components feel tight and look good, has been determined to be in gear box.
    Any thoughts?
    Thanks

  2. #2
    Senior Member TJones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Location
    Akron, Ohio
    Posts
    881
    Scott I’ve got power steering on mine so I’m not real sure about the stock manual steering boxes but I’m sure bmorgil or gmwillys will direct you in the right direction on here sometime today. If I was a betting guy I’d bet both have done it and can walk you through the process of rebuilding or replacing it which ever is the best route.

  3. #3
    Super Moderator bmorgil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Location
    Northwestern Ohio
    Posts
    2,323
    The box is a pretty straight forward rebuild. Be sure to use the new "unitized" or one piece bearings. The bearings in the box are originally individual balls. You can also use new individual balls but it makes it a little trickier to do. You have to goop up the bearings so they stay in place. The new sector shaft bushings MUST be reamed to fit to the new sector shaft. This is the only "hitch" in the process. I have a lot of reamers laying about. The reamer for the sector shaft can be cost prohibitive. You might be able to find a machine shop that will ream them for you. You will need new gasket and bearings. You may want to pick up a shim assortment. The preload will be set on the bench using shims.

  4. #4
    Junior Member Skboyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Location
    Bellville, ohio
    Posts
    12
    That's what I'm looking for the "hitch". I figured there had to be one. Also I read use a puller to get arm off oshaft?? Looks like KW has a sector shaft kit to replace this. Thanks again for the tip.

  5. #5
    Super Moderator bmorgil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Location
    Northwestern Ohio
    Posts
    2,323
    Yes Scott the pitman arm can be on the sector shaft fairly tight. A pitman arm puller (a good strong one) might be needed. I used the KW kit. It has all you need, except the tools. It is getting hard to find the unitized bearings. The Ross box is everywhere however. If you have trouble finding parts, the Ross box is in everything old car and tractor.

    https://www.desmetjeep.com/product/d...atid=18&page=1

  6. #6
    Junior Member Skboyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Location
    Bellville, ohio
    Posts
    12
    Finding another box was an option I'm also exploring just dont want to end up with same situation. I know chance you take. So reinstall the pitman arm, does it need pressed back on or just tighten back down and be ok?

  7. #7
    Super Moderator bmorgil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Location
    Northwestern Ohio
    Posts
    2,323
    You just torque it back on. It just gets stuck on there pretty good after its been on a while. The box is a simple design. Sometimes the only thing wrong with them is wear in the "High Point" the dead center of the sector shaft position. A new sector shaft, a seal, a preload adjustment and bearing repack and they are good. The bushings are usually not too bad. If they check OK, no play side to side with the new Sector Shaft, I would not replace them. I would only replace and size with a reamer if they were loose with the new shaft. The preload is the next important thing. It is set by shims and needs to be done on the bench.

  8. #8
    Senior Member TJones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Location
    Akron, Ohio
    Posts
    881
    That’s a great story Scott.
    Cherish every minute of them!!!!

  9. #9
    Super Moderator bmorgil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Location
    Northwestern Ohio
    Posts
    2,323
    That has me smiling also Scott! Keep it on the road man, its all about remembering the past, and creating the future.

  10. #10
    Junior Member Skboyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Location
    Bellville, ohio
    Posts
    12
    Ok, another question.
    Type of oil to fill in steering box? I have heard two options. 140w oil or some special grease. Seems to be two opinions on this subject, each says this is the best over the other.
    I'll ask you guys your thoughts here.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •