1960 DJ3A Resto with my 18 year old son

[bmorgil]

Good tip on the photo size 924 x 696. That or anything less will do it. Here is another way to resize. It is a bit clunky but if you are worried about downloading something, this is already in your computer.

Open up your file explorer and go to the photos you want to resize. Highlight all the photos you want to resize, right click and then pick the "Send To" (choose more options if you don't see send to) then email as if you were going to email them. Windows will pop up a window and ask you what size you want. After that it will insert them as an attachment to an email. You can cut and paste from there. I use that when I am trying to send a lot of photos in an email. It does reduce the definition as you reduce the size.

Now back to that DJ, take a picture of the firewall VIN tag.

[BeninCT]

Good tip on the photo size 924 x 696. That or anything less will do it. Here is another way to resize. It is a bit clunky but if you are worried about downloading something, this is already in your computer.

Open up your file explorer and go to the photos you want to resize. Highlight all the photos you want to resize, right click and then pick the "Send To" (choose more options if you don't see send to) then email as if you were going to email them. Windows will pop up a window and ask you what size you want. After that it will insert them as an attachment to an email. You can cut and paste from there. I use that when I am trying to send a lot of photos in an email. It does reduce the definition as you reduce the size.

Now back to that DJ, take a picture of the firewall VIN tag.

Picture process is going to take some studying but thank you for outlining it for me. ALso, there is no such thing as a hijack! Feel free to discuss

Firewall tag has it as a 1960 DJ3A as far as I can tell. Its the chassis that has me wondering. No diagonal braces in the rear and rear mount fuel tank plus bell crank mount on front round cross member has me thinking this was a DJ chassis that someone added a t case and new front axle to. I have no idea tho! Attachment 9794Attachment 9795Attachment 9796Attachment 9797Attachment 9797Attachment 9798

[bmorgil]

We truly need gmwillys to jump in here and see what he thinks.

I am going to say you have a 2A or 3A frame that someone put a body on. The confusing thing is the comments on the bell crank. On the very early jeep, the bell crank was on the axle. On the later models the bell crank was moved to the round cross member you mentioned. That almost makes me think it is a newer Military frame (the rear gas can mounts make me think military) because of the bell crank mount on the round cross member. I cannot see if it has the machine gun mount which would distinguish it from the civilian frame The front axle on the other hand has to be something early like an MB or very early 2A to have the bell crank on it.

[BeninCT]

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We truly need gmwillys to jump in here and see what he thinks.

I am going to say you have a 2A or 3A frame that someone put a body on. The confusing thing is the comments on the bell crank. On the very early jeep, the bell crank was on the axle. On the later models the bell crank was moved to the round cross member you mentioned. That almost makes me think it is a newer Military frame (the rear gas can mounts make me think military) because of the bell crank mount on the round cross member. I cannot see if it has the machine gun mount which would distinguish it from the civilian frame The front axle on the other hand has to be something early like an MB or very early 2A to have the bell crank on it.

Here is a clear shot of the frame and if I recall correctly the machine gun mount was a steel circle in the middle of the frame which I don’t have but please confirm. Fuel tank under the rear floor where the 3A frame had angled braces to me says DJ but like u said the front axle is confusing. NEed a little help!

[bmorgil]

Looks like a civilian frame. Take a pic of the left front (drivers side) motor mount. Lets see if it is a 2A or a 3A or later frame. The removed V brace in the rear was to move the tank. The gas tank was not necessarily moved in a farm jeep. It was usually not relocated because the PTO and/or hydraulics would be in the way.

Other differences between the 3A and the 2A are, the trans cross member is bolted to the underside of the frame flange on the 3A. On the 2A frame there is a bracket for the cross member and the cross member sticks out and is bolted to brackets. The frame has straps on the top and bottom.

The more you look at it the more it seems to be a DJ with a conversion to 4 wheel drive from an early power train. The casting numbers on the transmission and transfer case will tell you more about their age. The model of axles might tell us more. The bell crank on the axle is a clear indicator of an early Jeep.The axle models will be cast into the housings.

[BeninCT]

Looks like a civilian frame. Take a pic of the left front (drivers side) motor mount. Lets see if it is a 2A or a 3A or later frame. The removed V brace in the rear was to move the tank. The gas tank was not necessarily moved in a farm jeep. It was usually not relocated because the PTO and/or hydraulics would be in the way.

Other differences between the 3A and the 2A are, the trans cross member is bolted to the underside of the frame flange on the 3A. On the 2A frame there is a bracket for the cross member and the cross member sticks out and is bolted to brackets. The frame has straps on the top and bottom.

The more you look at it the more it seems to be a DJ with a conversion to 4 wheel drive from an early power train. The casting numbers on the transmission and transfer case will tell you more about their age. The model of axles might tell us more. The bell crank on the axle is a clear indicator of an early Jeep.The axle models will be cast into the housings.

Will see if I cant find axle info but here is the LF motor mount.

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I appreciate the feedback! Going to power wash everything today so should be easier to see what’s what.

[bmorgil]

I think you have DJ-3A that someone put axles and a transfer case under, from an old model GPW. When the front axle is cleaned up lets take a closer look at it. The original bell crank mount is visible in your picture. I wonder why it wasn't utilized. I would go back to it and use the steering parts for the CJ3A. The bell crank on the axle was a bad idea for various reasons. I would set the steering up as a CJ3A, and abandon the bell crank mount on the axle.

Here is a picture I found from another forum. The difference in the motor mount location will show a 2A frame from a 3A frame.